The whole thing is disgusting. It also shows how much damage can be done to WT when these stories get the attention they deserve. In this case, it was a non-believing JW aunt who blew the whistle. Usually we don't hear about these cases due to privacy laws. The exception is when a JW minor is involved, and the doctor or hospital go to the court. The WT is hard at a work on a way to manage even these situations to keep them out of the news. Sickening the way they seek to control information.
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Eloise Dupuis' husband gets medical files (Quebec, Canada)
by OrphanCrow inthis article is in french but it translates fairly well:.
the husband of a jehovah's witness who died after giving birth.
the husband of eloïse dupuis, a jehovah's witness who died after giving birth at the hôtel-dieu de lévis, may have the complete medical record of the deceased.a text by yannick bergeron.
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Clapping and singing in Conventions... like the evangelicals??
by ILoveTTATT2 inhttps://www.facebook.com/traslapados/videos/1470101566382318/?hc_ref=otherwhat do you think of this video?.
do you think they're imitating evangelicals?is this happening in other places?
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Lee Elder
I can't say this surprises me. I played in a band comprised of mostly JW's over the years from the time I was 16 up until I left as an elder in 1997. The friends mostly loved the music, and would show up anytime they knew we were playing. There were always a few sticks in the mud that liked to stir up trouble, but they were the minority. I think its a welcome change for most.
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This Story Says It All
by Lee Elder inthis story shows the sad reality of being a jw in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care.
it also shows that for jw's, obeying watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child.
very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/ .
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Lee Elder
For outsiders, its difficult to understand just how strong the level of control really is. Its much like serious addiction. I think its a great idea to give widespread distribution of this story. It really does a good job of illustrating the strength of Watchtower's undue influence.
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This Story Says It All
by Lee Elder inthis story shows the sad reality of being a jw in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care.
it also shows that for jw's, obeying watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child.
very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/ .
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I agree, it is a win-win, as upsetting as it must be for the mother. She made the right choice, its just sad that she couldn't have a free choice without sanctions or control. I would be surprised to see JW apologists jump on this train. Great quote from Jesus by the way.
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This Story Says It All
by Lee Elder inthis story shows the sad reality of being a jw in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care.
it also shows that for jw's, obeying watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child.
very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/ .
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This story shows the sad reality of being a JW in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care. It also shows that for JW's, obeying Watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child. Very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/
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Religious husband dumped her for saving her child
By: Emily Marcelo - Columnist / @Inq_LifestylePhilippine Daily Inquirer / 04:20 AM July 02, 2017My husband of 11 years left me because I allowed my daughter to have a blood transfusion after she contracted dengue. My husband is a devout Jehovah’s Witness and his religion believes that having a blood transfusion is a sin against God. I can’t believe how selfish he is. Our daughter’s life was at stake and she needed blood! He said this procedure would make Jehovah angry. He said he was willing to sacrifice our daughter’s life to please God. Without his permission, I donated my own blood for my daughter.
Since I have broken this rule, my husband dumped me. It’s heartbreaking that my husband put his religion first. He even warned that our daughter and I would be punished for what I’ve done. It’s been seven months since my husband left us. I am now a solo parent. My husband even refuses to give financial support because he said he didn’t want to support a disobedient wife and daughter. Even my church has disowned me. My daughter and I are not allowed to attend services at Kingdom Hall anymore. Our fellow Jehovah Witnesses friends won’t even help me or talk to me. But I’m still lucky I have my family to back me up.
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WT's expert on blood!
by Joyzabel inthe january 8, 2000 awake magazine published an article "the growing demand for bloodless medicine and surgery".
this article has been quoted extensively by jws as support for their "scientific" justification for refusing blood products.. a quote from that article that is familiar to most jws and exjws is this one:.
“all those dealing with blood and caring for surgical patients have to consider bloodless surgery.”—dr.
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We have an article in the que on this "WT expert".
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Ex-Wife of Canadian JW Attorney Speaks to NATIONAL POST about KIDNAPPING sick JW kids
by AndersonsInfo injwn poster, uzzah, posted a link to this article in one of his older posts which he brought to the top, but i think this excellent article deserves a thread of its own.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/178981/1/interesting-phone-call-media-the-blood-issuenational post http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2041666sept.
28, 2009. a witness accountchurch denies moving children to avoid transfusions.
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Barbara - please contact me about this.
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Judge acts to limit Watchtower's influence on child.
by Lee Elder ina judge in the uk has ordered strict limits on a jw father's ability to let the watchtower indoctrinate his child.
not sure if this is precedent setting, but i think the judge is spot on.
the reasons are explained in the article.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/.
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A judge in the UK has ordered strict limits on a JW father's ability to let the Watchtower indoctrinate his child. Not sure if this is precedent setting, but I think the judge is spot on. The reasons are explained in the article.
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Disfellowshipped for being complicit in someone else's sin - really?!
by Isambard Crater ina close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?
because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.
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Sure it could happen. They have categories of sin they can drop a lot of things into, i.e. "loose conduct". She could probably deflect the action by "repenting" or simply stating she disapproved of the action and was there to try and discourage the abortion right up to the last minute.
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Patient blood management/ Cell saver / smaller tubes - German film
by TheWonderofYou inthis video in german private tvstation from this may in which a cellsaver is presented and explained and a blood saving new system is proposed.. http://www.rtl-hessen.de/public/videos/2017-05-18-maz-blut-01-112351185.mp4.
further a new blood saving system, namely some tubes or pipes are propagated which would save blood in the process.
these pipes are smaller and only need 1/2 of human blood for the cell saver process.
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So perhaps you reduce the need for transfusions by 20%. That is a positive outcome, but bear in mind the JW who elects to follow Watchtowers irrational policy is forced to cut down the safety net of lifesaving blood transfusion when these methods fail or are inadequate. This sort of thing is mostly a distraction. A sleight of hand to change focus from where it should be, and that is on all of the situations where there are no alternatives to allogenic transfusion. Watchtower prefers to talk about "bloodless surgery" which is mostly limited to healthy JWs undergoing elective, planned surgery. Why? Because they have no substantive response to the very real and serious consequences of rejecting a medically necessary transfusion of red cells or platelets.